#82: How can we begin to end bias?

with Jessica Nordell

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In this episode we discuss…

  • What is unconscious bias?

  • How do social norms affect the way we look at biases

  • How weight-based bias shows up in the medical field 

  • Why fatness makes us recoil

  • How we change minds

  • Why diversity in our relationships is so important 

  • How we are drawn to those like us 

  • How bias affects trust

  • What the difference is between lack of discrimination and trust 

  • What to do when you cause harm 

  • A study of how bias affects teachers

  • How do we change people’s minds

  • What allows change to last 

  • How we benefit from challenging our biases





Have you ever wondered how your unconscious bias works? Or how we can move away from a culture infected with stigma, towards one dominated by genuine inclusion? Jessica Nordell, author of the book The End of Bias: A Beginning: The Science and Practice of Overcoming Unconscious Bias, is here to offer practical, science based, guidance to help us make meaningful change...and help others do the same.


Jessica Nordell is a science and culture journalist whose writing has appeared in the Atlantic, the New York Times, the New Republic, and many other publications. A former writer for public radio and producer for American Public Media, she graduated from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin, Madison. She lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The End of Bias: A Beginning is her first book.

Connect with Jessica on her Website

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